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TLJ Editor Has Had Second Thoughts About How A Certain Death Was Handled

The Last Jedi featured several notable deaths, but even The Last Jedi editor Bob Ducsay has had second thoughts about how a certain death was handled in the film. Ducsay revealed this during an interview with The Huffington Post. Click through for the full story. BEWARE OF SPOILERS FOR THE LAST JEDI.

One of the most controversial deaths for longtime fans was the death of Admiral Ackbar. He is far from a main character, but having Ackbar’s death occur off-screen and the lack of recognition almost felt mean spirited. In a discussion with The Huffington Post, Ducsay revealed that this was always the plan for the fan favorite Admiral. Ducsay went on to say, “I saw the film last night and I thought, hmmm, maybe that’s too incidental.” Head over to the Huffington Post to read Ducsay’s full statement regarding Ackbar. Let us know what you thought of the treatment of Ackbar’s death in The Last Jedi.

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  • 11Eleven11

    The entire film is a 152-minute middle finger to every SW film that came before it, so why would Admiral Ackbar be treated any differently? Nothing was sacred in this dumpster fire of a movie.

    • JediJones

      Wrong, TFA was the film that spit all over the Star Wars canon. TLJ repaired tons of the damage and wrote an intelligent story with writing worthy of association with the OT for the first time in a Star Wars movie since the OT.

      • 11Eleven11

        Not sure what movies you’ve been watching, but Roll Tide. 🙂

        • JediJones

          Rick Roll what?

      • ctwins3688

        Repaired the damage by killing off all the characters from the movies that came before it? I’m fine with a new direction, and I’ve accepted that nothing will ever be like the OT, but I find that argument hard to believe.

        Also, that’s a low bar in terms of writing. This is the first movie that didn’t feel predetermined (PT) or like a rehash (TFA) since the OT

      • Wayne Collins

        Intelligent story? You could take most of the characters out of the movie, and have absolutely no impact on it. Only Kylo, Rey, Luke and Snoke make any difference to the story line, and two of those characters were so poorly written.
        Take out Finn, Rose, DJ, Phasma, Porgs, and even to an extent Leia and Poe and you have the same movie with the same story line.
        Poorly written, poorly made film, which after the promise of Rogue One was a crying shame. TFA was not the greatest, but it set a lot of story lines up. Unfortunately Rian Johnson decided those were not for him, and cut them all down. Hopefully JJ doesn’t plan on getting revenge on what little plot Johnson left behind for him to work with.

      • Tyler Frechette

        They both spat on the OT. TFA was a complete rehash/blatant plagiarism and TLJ was just insulting.

      • JACKOFTRADZE

        I usually agree with you but TLJ did more damage to the canon (hyperspace slingshot, force powers) and has one of the most convoluted and implausible plots of any recent movie that I can remember. TFA was at least a watchable rehash with bland characters and a story that at least kept you in the film. TLJ made the bland characters even more bland and constantly took you out of the film with WTF moments.

        I cannot even stomach seeing a picture of that bearded apple head director. He makes me sick.

        • Bats2012

          Rian Johnson looks like the kid in your college group project that has a ton of bad ideas and no one listens to him.

        • Bekim

          While Im not a huge fan of TLJ and agree with some of your points, its pretty lame to personally attack Johnson. Seriously man…its a movie. Maybe some fresh air or a taco will calm you down.

          • Daniel Preece

            Rian Johnson deserves what he gets. Most of this mess was his decision (and KK approved it all). He decided to spoil Luke Skywalker, he decided to convert the Force into grey, to denigrate the Jedi, to give Luke a stupid and pointless death. He could have made any number of better and more respectful decisions and chose not to. If he didn’t see this backlash coming he’s a fool and no fan of SW. I have no sympathy for him.

          • Bekim

            OK, well have fun with that.

      • Caius

        This must be sarcasm. There is no other explanation. The only way to make TLJ worthy of watching twice is to switch out all the actors for muppets. Pigs in Space could have handled things better.

      • Daniel Preece

        I hope that was meant to be funny….

    • Can anyone tell me if this was the way I sounded about The Farce Awakens. please?

      • Jimmy Griffin

        You made a mistake there. You typed “sounded”, you know, in the past tense. 😉

      • Mike_5555

        Well…

      • Bats2012

        If so, it was only because TFA wasn’t as bad as TLJ. I think 11Eleven11 is on target.

      • DarthDoonald

        I actually ran outside after tlj grinning as i pulled up jta just to see your review massacre this movie. So i was double sad that night.

        I didn’t think tfa was amazing or anything. But tlj was garbage time.

      • JD

        “Can anyone tell me if this was the way I sounded about The Farce Awakens. please?”

        Ummm yes. Just about.

        • Good, just making sure.

          • JD

            hahahaha!

          • Caleb Amos

            Lol haha

      • ExarKun777

        TFA is almost as stupid as TLJ, to copy almost all the plot from Episode IV only demonstrates a lack of creativity and is an insult they they got away with it so blatantly. And no, I’m not a butthurt fanboy (for those thinking that), I like many type of movies and creative histories, and TFA was not a case of a good history at all.

        • Daniel Preece

          “butthurt fanboy” is a demonizing term used to assassinate the character of PAYING CUSTOMERS.

          That term has no hurtful affect on me. It’s use just lets me know who’s the sheep in the crowd.

          • ExarKun777

            Exactly! We have spent many years (and money) into this and suddenly we are not important to them (the past must die bla bla bla). Well then they will not have my money!

      • Walter F.

        Like Mike.
        Well….

        Fun note for you. One of the guys I work with went to see TLJ. Half way through the film his girlfriend said “Do we have to sit here and watch this?” He said “Don’t let me knock you down on the way out.”
        And they struggled their way through TFA.

      • shane

        Yes !

    • zerobobby77

      Not only films, but any other material ever released. Books, comics, series, games, music, toys, trading cards, and even cereals.

  • They done him wrong. I’m sure the Veterans of Galactic Wars have filed a formal protest.

  • JediJones

    One of those “nerd issues” that I couldn’t care less about. Ackbar was always my least favorite ROTJ figure as a kid. Thought he looked really stupid. A lot of stuff happens in a Star Wars movie. Their brilliance is that too much happens for you to keep up with, rather than the movie slowing down to go micro on every little plot point like an average movie would.

    • ctwins3688

      Couldn’t it be argued that Hans death illustrated Kylos doubling down/ commitment to the dark side, and that he served as a similar vehicle for character development like snoke?

    • Tyler Frechette

      He’s really not that minor though. He’s made it into numerous Star Wars video games, for example. Empire at War and EA Battlefront II off the top of my head. He was in several of the movies and was a key leader in the Rebellion. That’s like saying Mon Mothma or Bail Organa are “minor characters”. I think you’re mistaken.

      • localfromiskalon

        He had a huge role in the books and comics, too.

    • coreworld

      I’d argue it made a pretty big impact on Kylo and as for all this obsession with reuniting the original trio, it happened…in Return Of The Jedi, why people need to see them together again is beyond me.

  • The_Kilted_Fett

    *holds out mug to fill with fanboy tears*

  • This is what they worry about?

    • Logan

      Paul, the next topic of discussion should be why Luke’s right hand dissapeared with him. I don’t think Luke’s Force ghost will have the robotic hand if he appears in IX.

      • Zarco Rey

        LUKE was a ghost the whole time. He died years ago from drinking unpasteurized sea cow milk.

        • Logan

          Lol. Your probably right.

  • ctwins3688

    The more I think about it the more I realize this whole movie was just Disney ripping the bandaid off and telling fans of the OT to either get on board with the new direction or get out of the way

    • Daniel Preece

      If those fans take their money with them, KK will be singing a very different song soon. I know my thousand to two thousand a year is gone (been dwindling for a few years). I’ve spent maybe $100 on new SW merch in the last year. ( I still buy stuff made before Lucas sold out. That’s money KK will never see.) If everyone pissed at the current direction closed their wallets, we’d start to see much better movies.

  • ShipGirlLover

    All we have left of the OT in IX is Nien Numb, unless he follows Leia’s inevitable off screen death.

    Imagine Ackbar taking the Raddus into a hyperspace ram and Hux yelling “It’s a trap!”

    • Kinetic_Koala

      I personally have no problem with the way Ackbar went out, but holy crap that alternate scenario you mentioned would have been so cool.

      • ctwins3688

        If leia would have died in that scene instead of flying through space I think it would have given more weight to Ackbars passing. It would have also made the movie much more real, with steep consequences

        • Bats2012

          Just be ready for the next one when 9 Rey force projections fight the entire first order.

    • Funtomaz

      Would you apply for a job in the Lucasfilm story group?

    • bmales01

      you bite your tongue!

    • JACKOFTRADZE

      He, along with Chewie, R2, C-3P0 and Leia will be blown up in the Falcon in the opening credits of EP9: Return of the LOL Jedi.

      • localfromiskalon

        Don’t forget Wedge. And they have to bring back Lando and kill him off, too.

        • JACKOFTRADZE

          At this point I do not even want Lando to show up.

          Another lost opportunity in TLJ was Lando could have been the random hacker (with no description whatsoever other than it wore a special lapel pin) on that utterly pointless and avoidable side quest that Battlefront jump pack Maz told Finn-Finn Binks and Shrek to go on.

          • localfromiskalon

            I don’t either. The damage is already done. That WOULD have been a perfect spot to put him in, though…At this point, I just don’t have any interest in whatever Disney does from here on out.

          • JACKOFTRADZE

            I only have interest in the spin offs at this point. I still want to see Solo and Kenobi. I do not care whatsoever what happens in EP9. This is where the TLJ left us:

            – Rey beyond reason of a doubt shown she is truly an unrealistic and unlikable Mary Sue.
            – Poor Finn was ruined by making him a coward again even though he stepped up at the end of TFA. He was a complete and incompetent laughing stock who mopped a planet base AND Snoke’s ten mile long ship. After his cringe inducing CHROMEDOME Ninja Turtle-esk line he was even robbed of a truly heroic moment that would have been an emotional character arc by Shrek.
            – Poe had more depth in TLJ but was constantly castrated by the two truly incompetent grandmothers who’s leadership reduced the resistance to 18 people.
            – Kylo the ultimate menopausal villain who will change his mind and emotions faster than you can blink who also was beat by Mary Sue two times in a row.
            – Pretty much all OT characters are dead or been used as props.

            No wonder why no one showed up to help them and get involved in this pointless conflict. I feel the same.

          • localfromiskalon

            Weird thing is, I actually enjoyed TFA (mostly, though I definitely recognize the flaws and derivativeness). I liked Finn and Rey, and sure she was pulling off some crazy force stuff, but it just seemed like all of that would be explained in TLJ…but, um, guess not. She can lift dozens of boulders with no training because…the Force? Huh? I thought all the leads actually did a great job; acting-wise, no complaints here. I liked Finn quite a bit, But some of the dialogue, and story choices…Some seriously stunning visuals in the movie, though…and all the plot holes–except for the Maz thing; that was more of a plot canyon.
            I can overlook things like that, and suspend disbelief, but what really ruined this one for me were really three things–How Rey was used/Rey’s backstory (I was really looking forward to seeing her grow in the force and explain that she was possibly a Jedi student as a child), What they did with Ackbar, and their portrayal of Luke (Jake). Hammill acted the heck out of what he was given, but that was not the ‘real’ Luke. The galaxy can’t be inspired by the Resistance blowing up Death Planet, but they are by somebody projecting an illusion and dying of exhaustion? Huh? This is the first SW movie I just don’t want to see again. The ST is a fiction within a fictional universe (like the old Infinities stories).
            I DO hope Solo and Kenobi turn out well. Maybe some time I’ll come around, but this one just really soured me. Anyway, thanks for letting me vent:)

          • jason1978

            The whole point of having the original characters was to pass the torch. Did you not see the originals and prequels? Obi-Wan and Yoda were props too in the originals. It was no longer their stories and both were killed off. Emperor was killed off like Snoke. Boba Fett was killed off like a Looney Toons character. Jabba was killed off after maybe a total of 5 minutes of screen time. If Lucas filmed 1-3 first and 6-8 after it would be the same thing. These new movies are no longer the stories of the originals.

            Also Ford had been begging for Han to be killed off since 1980. That should be pretty well known to any fan by now. The whole reason for the Carbonite scene was included was to write Han out as Ford was not signed on for the 3rd movie and unlikely to return. The original scripts for Jedi had Lando replacing Han in a far bigger role. Ford agreed to return but along with Lawrence Kasdan felt Han should sacrifice himself. Lucas said no. Ford grew to hate Han Solo, criticized Lucas for caring more about toys than his script. His own producer said the same thing. Said by the time Jedi was written Lucas was more focused on making money and wanted a happier movie and nothing dark like Han dying. The only reason Ford came back for TFA was to kill Han off. As for the other OT deaths…well Leia is going to die because Carrie died in real life. Luke dying was handled so well and also again consider when the script was written, scenes were shot Carrie was alive and expected to be the main focus of Ep 9. It was her movie, Hamill said so, she said so. This likely made it maybe a bit easier on Rian. Also Luke will be in Ep 9 as a Force Ghost. Oh and Hamill was unsure of even making these new movies. When Lucas presented him the script he said he would write Luke out if he wanted. If Luke lived then what? I guess Ep 9 ends with everyone dancing, singing and smiling again? Luke needed to die to further evolve Rey’s character and Kylo’s too. Like with Obi-Wan, Vader was his pupil, Obi-Wan died. Kylo was Luke’s pupil, Luke died.

          • jason1978

            Disney plays zero role in casting, directing, writing, producing, special effects. Blaming Disney is like saying I have no interest in whatever 20th Century Fox does blaming them for Jar Jar

          • ExarKun777

            “Finn-Finn Binks” hahahahaha

          • jason1978

            Billy Dee Williams has bad knees, a bad back so giving him the role DJ had wouldn’t have worked at all. These are NOT the stories anymore of the older characters. I would love to see Lando return but these movies are to create and introduce new characters.

          • Then again, what would have been the complaint had Lando been put in that role? I know there is a complaint for every contingency.

          • Daniel Preece

            The plot thread was pointless, with or without Lando. So you’d always have that to complain about.

        • Bats2012

          They have to reverse his character arc from the OT first though. So they have to make him a lying swindler THEN kill him off.

      • bmales01

        BOOO

        • JACKOFTRADZE

          Bruh, you better prepare yourself, he is going to offed in either a horrible or disrespectful way. I love Nien Numb BTW.

          • bmales01

            NN is the NEW Wedge. He cant die

          • JACKOFTRADZE

            Whatever makes you sleep, but for what it is worth I hope he lives.

          • BenduPeace

            I think we should start a preemptive campaign that if NN is killed that the recent trend of SW alien deaths are disturbing us and would greatly disappoint many JTAers!!

          • Mike_5555

            That’s right. Maybe Rian’s new trilogy is about Nien Nunb and Chewie going off on an adventure after Episode IX 🙂

          • bmales01

            my dream

          • Bats2012

            NN is the new Biggs

          • shane

            NN needs a bigger role. I’m serious about that. He does.

    • Mike_5555

      “Imagine Ackbar taking the Raddus into a hyperspace ram and Hux yelling “It’s a trap!”

      Wow! That’s a fantastic idea and would have been a great moment.

    • thelastwookie
  • King Bowser

    I will never forgive them for killing Ackbar off that way. He was always one of my favorite characters, and toys.

    All of Holdo’s scenes should have been replaced with Ackbar. What could have been more fitting than Ackbar going down with his ship as he sacrificed himself saving the rebels. Instead of giving fans something fitting for a beloved character, they introduced a one and done character. The actress did a good job, nothing against her, but Ackbar deserved a place in the lime light.

    It was after his death and the Flying in space Lea scene that I started to realize that I wasn’t liking the film I was watching in the theatre.

    • ctwins3688

      And in typical Disney fashion they release a new ackbar action figure just before the movie comes out to capitalize on a fan favorite character (who was barely in the film) one last time

      • Bats2012

        I sold my carded Carrie Poppins basically immediately following the film.

    • ExarKun777

      Agree. Sadly, all that scene seems it was armed so the crazy purple lady crashes into The Supremacy (name of Snoke’s flagship). Great, the oppressed purple lady crashes into The Supremacy established by the hateful Hugh Hefner, wonderful story aha, but this is not Star Wars!. I don’t care about their crazy messages and the current politics in America being represented in Star Wars, I want that they tell a good story. A good writer will not build her/his story around silly mainstream messages.

    • Daniel Preece

      Not a chance for Ackbar, I’m afraid. He’s male, and that wasn’t the agenda. One more dead male unceremoniously out of the way.

  • Good Man

    I thought maybe he could have rammed the ship into Snoke’s. Then my friend smartly replied that his last name and a kamikaze strike would have ill effects…

  • Tom Chorlton

    Who will warn us about traps in the future now? I think it can no longer be done…

    • King Bowser

      You’ve got a point. How are the, something like 8 rebels that are left, going to survive walking into all of those traps…

      • Tom Chorlton

        Nien Numb can save them! I believe in Nien Numb!!!

  • dg101

    Eh. Kinda bummed, but in reality, he wasn’t a huge character. He was in ONE movie, had like, ONE memorable moment, and didn’t really do much cool. Would have been cool to see him get more to do, but I’m not gonna lose sleep over it. Really, the entire scene, (especially Leia Supermanning to the ship) was kind of a goofy-looking mess, so Ackbar’s death really isn’t the problem.

    • Tyler Frechette

      Was not in only one movie.

      • Has Been Kenobi

        One Ot movie I think he meant. Since a lot of people don’t consider Disney movies canon

      • dg101

        Oh right. He had a 2 second cameo in TFA. My bad.

    • zerobobby77

      He was also in The Clone Wars and tons of real sequel books.

      • dg101

        Most people don’t really read those or watch Clone Wars, though. I read some of the old EU and saw Clone Wars once, but he wasn’t really all that memorable in that one for me.

        • zerobobby77

          Pretty much every fan has watched the Clone Wars at least once, and everyone has read a few comics. You are the minority, sorry.

          • dg101

            Yes. Most hardcore fans. Who are not the majority. I’ve seen Clone Wars, enjoyed it even. Barely remembered Ackbar even showed up. But your average joe on the street who just kinda likes Star Wars (but shows up for every movie)? Or that little kid who’s really into the movies alone? He’s probably not going to care about the “It’s a trap” guy not getting some big important death.

  • mic windu

    I hadn’t been as distraught since Hasbro announced they were introducing a new scale

    • King Bowser

      They do new scales all the time: various miniature lines, Mighty Muggs, Angry Birds, various gaming figures, those Metal figurines this year. Then there’s the non-hasbro lines like Lego, the Disney Store metal figures, The Disney Store Toybox figures, Jakks Pacific 12″ figures, Funko Pops, the Figuarts scale (which is slightly smaller than Hasbro’s 6″) and the Mafex scale (which is slightly taller than Hasbro’s 6″).

      But I know what you mean 😉

  • Funtomaz

    His death is not really offscreen. When the bridge gets hit you can see Ackbar get incinerated in the background. Still a very poor exit. But he needed to give way to the new fan favorite Vice Admiral Holdo. 😉

  • Tyler Frechette

    I’ll say what I’ve been saying.

    I understand the whole “passing the torch” thing, and introducing new, fresh characters, and that that’s an essential part of continuing the saga and keeping the franchise alive. That’s not my problem with this movie.

    My problem is that those new characters are poorly written and I have no attachment or investment in them because of it. And the original cast and characters that actually hold emotional weight (Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, 3PO, R2, Ackbar, and Lando [seriously, Lando]) were either omitted, swept aside, and or killed off and done a complete disservice. None of them got the screen time or sendoff they deserved. Not a one. It’s so unbelievably insulting it’s unreal.

    Tried so hard to create new characters to sell merchandise for (as if they needed to do that) that they neglected the characters that established this whole thing in the first place. Unreal.

    • Stereotypical Evil Archer

      The Last Jedi is written so much better than the Prequels though.

      • Tyler Frechette

        BAHAHA I’m very sorry sir but I beg to differ.

      • ILoveSand

        I don’t agree with that.

        • Seb

          What a compelling argument.

      • Norman

        No fraking way, dude. The sequels so far are a five hour character study mostly showing how not to write characters properly. Not saying its not somewhat of a fun ride, but….

      • Caius

        What criteria are you using for comparison?

      • Daniel Preece

        Gonna need that one explained…

      • shane

        No, sorry

    • ShipGirlLover

      Johnson said there was no place for Lando in the story. I mean, really, a casino full of shady people where a slicer is and they go ask a scoundrel where it is.

      That scoundrel is Lando…nope, it’s Maz.

      • localfromiskalon

        They needed to save him for Ep. IX. So they can kill him off then (along with Leia offscreen, Chewie, R2, and 3PO).

      • Arnold Corso

        yeah… I like Rian Johnson, seems like a genuinely nice guy, but wow some of his explanations are lazy. NOT having Lando in a casino planet, NOT even mentioning Lando when Leia calls for allies, just makes his absence all the more glaring.

      • TLJ was a Trekkie inside job

        Exactly! The moment they needed to go to a casino I was like lando… the guy is lando. NOPE

      • Mike_5555

        The fact that Lando has been completely ignored is bizarre and frankly disgraceful. I can understand TFA, but it would have been very easy to include him in TLJ. In several different spots. I don’t know what’s going on, but I seriously doubt we’ll see him in Episode IX. It’s disrespectful to such an iconic and important character.

        • Walter F.

          Even if he’s in bad shape, don’t mean he can’t be there and be used. Had no problem using his voice on Rebels. It’s just sad.

        • Daniel Preece

          At this point, the character of Lando is very fortunate he’s been overlooked.

      • Tyler Frechette

        Ugh EXACTLY! The unexplained absence of Lando and Wedge is terrible. And even worse, they aren’t even MENTIONED. How disrespectful.

      • JD

        Ya know, for a long time I was pissed about Bill Dee Williams being left out of TFA, he COULD HAVE been included in may spots, but okay, fine. Then I was disappointed [crushed] all over again to learn he wouldn’t be in TLJ. But…huh. Now on reflection do I actually want to see him in IX or not? Because now, in retrospect, I’m almost glad Lando might be spared the indignity of barely having a role before he’s killed off suddenly.

        I actually really enjoyed VII and VIII… Because my brain actively overlooks the shoddy death scenes of the classic characters, I refuse to dwell on it so I can’t get mad.

    • Daniel Preece

      I see your point. But I can even handle the bland new characters–I’m fine with the two main blandies in Rogue One. For me, it’s the blatant and obvious tearing down of the first generation characters to make the second generation look good. Rian Johnson himself said he took away Luke’s heroism to make Rey look more heroic. And Abrams said he wrote Luke out because Luke stole every scene he was in. That’s unforgivable. And shows the quality of writers we’re suffering here.

      Better the OT be left out entirely than be shat upon. Although I love old man Luke figures, I truly wish his character was erased from these sequels.

      • Tyler Frechette

        I personally LOVED Rogue One. Never understood how people said they couldn’t connect to the characters in Rogue One. I for one find Jyn’s moments with viewing her father on the recording, and finally seeing him in person only to watch him die, heartbreaking scenes that always get me. But, that’s just me I guess.
        Totally concur with the rest of your statement though. They didn’t have to utterly ruin all the original characters just to pass the torch. I understand they needed to pass the torch but they went about it completely the wrong way and it’s very offensive, insulting, and unforgivable.

  • Zarco Rey

    If I could pick a single thing I absolutely hated in the film. It’s that. He wasn’t a backgrounder in the OT after all, he and his peeps were key to securing a Rebel victory and…NOT ending the Empire because star wars never end. Hmmm…I guess the Mon Calamari might have been better not ever getting involved.

    Basically, Disney-Star Wars mostly treats aliens in their movies like the one-off aliens in JJ Abrams’ Star Trek (Spock and villains aside). Just brief eye-candy or there for a joke. I guess Jar Jar is still to blame for that. Even Chewbacca is a bit player. Maybe Disney thinks audiences will be turned off to some “thing” they cannot relate to.

    • How xenophobic of the “woke” Disney crowd.

    • Mike_5555

      Pushing the alien characters to the background and the lack of familiar aliens are two of my biggest complaints about the ST.

  • Jon Morgan

    3 Tie fighters took out the bridge in about 5 mins. No shields up front? Maybe Holdo’s super secret plan to take over? But it takes 2 hours to chase down 4 ships with an entire First Order fleet? It’s still a really stupid story. Also Poe is fire and explosion proof. Pretty sure Disney will find a way to get GotG shoehorned in episode 9 somehow with more Marvel humor.

  • Tom Chorlton

    Without Admiral Ackbar, there IS NO STAR WARS. He was the most important character in the OT after Luke. I spent the past 30 years cooking up all sorts of fan fiction about him, and his family, and his little fish faced kids, and all their wacky adventures. Are you telling me none of that is CANON anymore? CURSE YOU LAST JEDI!!! CURSE YOOOOOUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!! [in all seriousness, i was mildy bummed, cos I love Ackbar, but he’s about as important as Bib Fortuna]

    • Has Been Kenobi

      You had me concerned for your sanity for a minute 🙂

    • Daniel Preece

      “Jabba no barter.” I say that more than I say “It’s a trap.”

  • Indysolo007

    It’s almost like Transformers 86 when Megatron just wiped the classic characters off the map in one scene.

    • bmales01

      I loved that scene. it gave some level of badness to Megatron and instilled a sense that some warriors die, which was sorely lacking beforehand

    • coreworld

      Ha! Reading your comment and seeing Transformers 86, I thought ‘What? we’re at number 86?!?’ Feels like it though…..

    • Indiana Skywalker

      As a child, I sat grief-stricken in the theater while watching Megatron slaughter some of my favorite characters in that scene. To this day that scene still makes me wince.

  • padawanbear

    He should have taken the cruiser into hyperspace, splitting Snoke’s ship in half. Much more heroic death.

  • Arm3nch Tripplehorn

    What bugs me the most is the WAY they killed Ackbar, like if he really was no one in the SW franchise (even in the canon timeline); appearing in novels (Lost Stars, Bloodline, Aftermath’s trilogy, Heir to the Jedi, etc.), comics, TCW, Battlefront.

    I think he really became a secondary character or even a very important one.

    *sobbing* My feeling are like Hitler’s reaction videos.

  • Hazzbro Jonez

    it actually floored me. wars feature death, sometimes heroes die. for all the fansplaining about “oh TFA designs weren’t derivative i mean our military still has stuff that looks like it did 30 years ago” those whiners couldn’t apply the same “war-time” logic to this situation?
    that right there is why sometimes star wars fans are unnerving to no end

    • Tom Chorlton

      It would have been way better had Ackbar turned to the screen and yelled “Trap THIS!” and then pushed a button and blew up all the bad guys, and then Luke came out of hiding and said “I AM THE FORCE” and blew up the bad guy space ships with his mind beam because he’s the most powerful force user ever and then rey died and han solo came back and they all fought boba fett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

      • Hazzbro Jonez

        actually rey is a force ghost of Qui Gon that got trapped in a non-binary flesh vessel
        it would have been better if Darth Vader’s Force Ghost came in and was like “YOU LIKE ME IN R1 WELL I WASN’T FINISHED” and slices the whole supremecy in half with a giant force mind meld laser saber.

        then BAM out of hyperspace jumps Greg Grundwald or Grundy Golberson or wtf ever from Heroes comes in and is like im Snap Wexley the superspace pilot even though my name sounds like a Harry Potter character and some other Lost actors form the New Union Defiance to take on Supreme Box Logo T-Shirt Kylo and the FIFO
        lol ahahhahahahaahah
        ahahahahahah

        • Tom Chorlton

          And when they go confront Supreme Leader Snoke, out of nowhere he just says “YOU MIGHT KNOW ME BY MY BIRTH NAME… BOBA FETT!!!!!” and everyone is happy and claps and says “I recognize that name!” and now Snoke is AWESOME.

      • zerobobby77

        That would have made me stand up and clap in the cinema. And i would have respect for everyone involved in the movie.

      • Jesus’s Best Friend Floyd

        That probably took you 10 seconds to think up, and even in your sarcasm its better than this new trilogy.

  • Hazzbro Jonez

    so killing a character immediately deletes all of your childhood memories of playing with the toy in your backyard and all the fun you had?/
    sorry but that’s just a foolish way to look at life in general

  • Hazzbro Jonez

    the only way i would have done this different is have Leia do a force hold so powerful that she stops kylo’s tie fighter and those flanking him in mid-flight, evacuates the bridge and still goes full Poppins.

  • Indysolo007

    I hear Nien Nunb is going to be found dead in the next one. OVerdosed on death sticks in the space toilet.

    • ctwins3688

      Lol death sticks

    • bmales01

      you sir, have made my list

      • Indysolo007

        Not sure if that’s a good or bad thing haha

        • bmales01

          ask Paul 🙂

          • Indysolo007

            could have said Wedge passed in a speeder accident driving home from Dex’s diner. Speed kills.

          • bmales01

            NN is the NEW Wedge

    • bmales01

      I cant downvote this enough

    • 6starwars

      Unsure why no one is discussing the scene during the credits where Nien is ejected from the Falcon just before it blasts into hyperspace at the end.

      • bmales01

        down vote

        • 6starwars

          You seriously should be worried about his fate in IX. “Poor Nien died from BO, due to not changing his clothes in 30+ years.”

    • Mike_5555

      Are you trying to give bmales01 a heart attack?

      • bmales01

        Its ok, I took a break from JTA. About 3 seconds, and then the shakes and sweats started

  • bobcat

    it felt a little lack luster for a long time character that people like. he was never overly on my radar but he was a staple. its still realistic though. its battle. people die. life doesnt give you a grand exit in something like a war would it ? so im kinda ok with it over all. ill sleep ok tonight.

  • JACKOFTRADZE

    It was more important for the feminist agenda message of the film to give the new purple hair gown wearing general the canon breaking maneuver than to give a beloved character like Ackbar (that everyone knows and cares about) that move. If they did not no one would remember her unlikable character.

    This is like the TFA when Chewie walked past Leia with no hug after Han’s death. These movies will age like milk.

    • Indysolo007

      He helped take down a Death Star and all he got was a passing line. There is no real emotion to these films. Even the prequels tried to show some emotion (if Manakin Skywalker was a better actor it could have helped), the scene with obi Wan yelling at the crisped husk of his friend was very impressive though.

    • Daniel Preece

      “…will age like milk.” Brilliant. And true.

      And the bottle I got was sour before it arrived.

  • bmales01

    some of these posts saying NN is the next to go, is literally the worst thing I have ever read on JTA. I am going to need to take some time off

    • Indysolo007

      Hell, I like NN and knew he’d make an impactful example. Maybe they can start ep9 with Ackbar’s funeral and NN could serve as pallbearer.

    • Wait a minute. Was Nien Nunb in The Last Jedi? I mentioned that Disney Star Wars is instantly forgettable. So perhaps that’s my memory issue here.

      • Mike_5555

        Yes, Nien Nunb was in TLJ. He was only onscreen a few times though, and never the focus. He was on the Falcon with everyone at the end of the movie,

        • Everyone was on the Falcon?

          • CadeSky

            Yep! Otherwise I sure would have assumed that he was a goner!

          • Jeff Wickson

            Well if you pronounce his name as NINE Numb….then the next SW movie is Episode NINE…..so yeah, he is a goner in the next film. He will be completely NUMB in NINE !!! LOL.

          • CadeSky

            It’s funny, now that you mention that…I always think of it as two syllables…like “Nee En.” Anyone have an official pronunciation?

          • Funtomaz

            The Rebels are something like 12 people or so at the end of the movie…

          • localfromiskalon

            Until they court-martial/execute Poe and his group for mutiny…then they should be down to about 7 or 8.

          • Tyler Frechette

            No no, not Rebels — “Resistance”. Let’s not get the fan fiction terminology mixed up with real Star Wars 😉

          • Mike_5555

            Well, not literally everyone. Leia, Rey, Poe, Finn, Rose, Chewie, Nien Nunb, and the droids though.

      • bmales01

        Are you trying to hurt me?

    • shane

      Just breath, breeeaaaathhh

  • Has Been Kenobi

    Personally what bugged me the most is that he was the only bridge officer they named. It was painfully awkward when they were like “admiral akbar, and the rest of the bridge crew we don’t care about are dead”

    • bmales01

      What bugged me most is they were lost in space. If they died on board, then its calamari night in the cafeteria

      • Mike_5555

        Well that escalated quickly.

        • bmales01

          I have that effect on threads

      • Jeff Wickson

        Maybe that’s how Leia survived in space…..she had some cooked Calamari before heading back to the ship !!!

  • EPC-421

    His death made me genuinely angry, a fan-favorite for years and they killed him off like any generic Stormtrooper.

  • Lobot

    I don’t get why people are so upset about this. He was a pilot and his ship got blown up. That’s a pretty popular way for a pilot to die and it’s usually results in a pretty quick death. This didn’t bother me at all.

    • Daniel Preece

      Watch the Titanic. That’s how a noble captain dies. Not offscreen as an afterthought.

  • BenduPeace

    I thought it was unfortunate and disappointing. I had that thread of a feeling at times during the movie and still do. His death was definitely not overdone and its treatment unnecessary. Makes me happy that I followed Paul’s alert when his 6 inch came out. I have him displayed proudly next to his multiple 3.75 versions. Long live Ackbar!!

  • JACKOFTRADZE
  • Look at what this Millennial butt-hat wrote about Admiral Ackbar on The Verge website:
    “More than anything, mourning over Ackbar’s death in the The Last Jedi
    feels like mourning over fan-made canon. It’s mourning over
    hypotheticals and a childhood nostalgia that remembers Ackbar as
    something bigger and better developed than he was.”

    They’re like babies with power tools. They don’t understand Star Wars and their writing powers should be taken away from them.

    • Jimmy Griffin

      Yeah, I expressed my feelings about that quote on another website.

      • That horrible website?

        • Jimmy Griffin

          You know the one. You should go over there and upvote my comment. It would really raise morale.

          • Every time I go over there, new JTA readers follow. I gotta cut that crap out.

    • localfromiskalon

      That’s horrible.

    • zerobobby77

      Who said that?? I’m… speeechless.

    • bmales01

      I dont know what The Verge is, and now I have good reasons to actively avoid it

    • zx_spectrum_30

      Sounds like someone who doesn’t understand Star Wars

    • Jesus’s Best Friend Floyd

      Sounds like a direct quote from Fema-midget Rian Johnson.

    • Kinetic_Koala

      In their defense, isn’t that their opinion? I didn’t grow up alongside the OT and didn’t have the same level of nostalgia for the good Admiral, although I most certainly loved him (in no small part due to Hasbro’s beautiful TVC figure of him, too). I have no problem with how Ackbar went out in TLJ (although I will concede I would have preferred if we had seen him for one second longer), although that’s certainly my own opinion.

      Personally, I just feel that the “___ doesn’t understand Star Wars” line is and always will cause the most division among the fan base. It’s like we’re always so ready to gut a fellow fan for a differing point of view.

      • Yup, he is welcome to his opinion. My personal feelings how I feel about him are my opinion too. 🙂

      • Daniel Preece

        But this particular discussion isn’t about mere opinion. It’s not an opinion that Ackbar had his group of fans. Too many spoofs and memes of him and his famous quote to pretend there was no fanbase for him. The Verve comment is just another smear on OT fans to build up their case for the sequels.

  • Alientek

    It bothered me that they thought enough of him to bring him back for TFA, but then are dismissive of him in TLJ. Barely show him, but just enough to let you know he gets sucked out to space. Should have let the guy retire on an underwater beach somewhere.

    I put that on Rian, who is always quick to profess his love of Star Wars. It is little things like this that make you question how much love for, or fan of Star Wars the people making the new movies are. Surely someone during the production would mention it. At least I would like to think they would.

    R.I.P ACKBAR

  • bnicks87

    I didn’t think they handled Ackbar’s death poorly. They at least acknowledged his death. It could’ve been worse – they could’ve just said “All our leaders on the bridge are dead.” And if they had made a huge deal about it, it would be too much fan-service for my taste.

    • Daniel Preece

      But ripping off OT plots for 6 hours so far ISN’T excessive fan-service? Every FRAME of these sequels are chock full of fan-service.

  • zerobobby77

    Ackbar ain’t dead, neither Luke and Han, or Leia.
    Fan fiction can’t kill nobody but their public.

    • CadeSky

      I’m reading the Rogue Squadron books for the first time ever right now and I am loving all of this “old EU” goodness. Ackbar is pretty great in these books.

      • zerobobby77

        And the comics were amazing too. Super dynamic.

        • CadeSky

          Haha, and thanks to Marvel getting those back into print, I am working on those too. I don’t know why Rogue Squadron was something I always skipped over! I feel like I have probably 90% of all Star Wars comics ever published…yet I skipped these until 2017/18!

  • CadeSky

    I was hoping that this story was going to be about someone regretting Leia’s spacewalk.

    Regarding Ackbar…I love the guy too, but one of the things that I walked from TLJ liking was that the sense of peril was very palpable throughout. Ackbar dying in an unceremonious way like that…well…that was war. Not everyone gets a dramatic, slow motion death scene. It was realistic, it was dangerous. Sometimes you don’t get to say goodbye, really.

    • Lobot

      Well said!

    • Caius

      Sense of peril? following the resistance at a snails pace through space for two hours is hardly a sense of peril. You must live in a very fragile world.

    • Daniel Preece

      Only the OT heroes are in danger. Noobs like Finn and Rose can have a for-certain-fatal collision and have one be okay and the other only injured. Noob Finn couldn’t even kill HIMSELF! But Luke, he died from…. well just being (male) Luke I guess. No explanation of how he died from not being stabbed…

  • darthmo

    Ackbar’s sudden death didn’t bother me, that’s what happens in war, one moment you’re there the next you could be vaporised. It worked in context of the scene.
    It’s how they’ve handled the other OT characters which is still the main problem.

    • Grand Admiral Willis

      Totally agree, although Ackbar was handled badly, it’s Luke’s death that he should be second guessing or third guessing. I still cannot believe they are building Star Wars world and they let pseudo intellectual filmmakers ruin the legacies of at least 2 OT characters so far. Is the multi million dollars spent to create Star Wars world going to rest on Poe, Rey and Finn? This generation of young people have no special attachment to Star Wars any more than they do to Marvel or Fast and Furious. China does not care.

      Is the Luke Skywalker blurb at the park going to be “ after thinking about murdering his nephew, he retired to contemplate this split second , almost mistake, then he refused to properly train a budding apprentice or join the fight to help his sister in her greatest hour of need ( when Starkiller base was stalking Hosnian system). He later reconsidered after being shown a hologram by a robot and them appeared as a hologram himself to distract his killer nephew while his sister escaped, then collapsed of fatigue.

      • Jesus’s Best Friend Floyd

        Oh they’ve ruined Leia already too.
        She stands around for 2 movies looking like a miserable victim waiting for the First Order to strike the last blow. Oh and she can fly through space.

      • darthmo

        Yes, if any second guessing is needed it is the Luke storyline and ending but with the backlash that’s probably happening in private anyway.
        Personally I find to have literally killed two of the main three OT characters so far is obvious writing and was unnecessary apart from Ford’s desire to get himself out of the films. Sadly that’s probably what they will do to the character of Leia.
        Luke could have easily remained until the final scenes of EpXI, remain the hero he was and pass the baton after the fans/audience getting to know the new characters over the course of three films.
        I feel you’re right about the new characters having any longevity with younger audiences. The OT was a once in a life time moment that many old fans still resonate with.
        Re; China, I feel the casting of Chinese actors purely to bolster ticket sales in that particular region is contrived and an unnecessary gimmick. If the story is written with a universality it shouldn’t matter where in the world the audience is watching or who is on screen imo.

  • ShipGirlLover

    In IX we’ll find out Wedge and Lando died off screen from too many Colt 45s.

    • Carbonite_Hydrates

      I wouldn’t be surprised if Wedge is in the next movie.

  • Eradicator

    Yeah, his death was crappy. They definitely screwed that up.

  • Interesting. Im kind of glad they left that porg’s death off screen, but I can see how people are still asking how Chewie caught, killed and prepared it.

    • Did you find it odd that Chewy was roasting the porg. Weren’t we led to believe that he was a raw meat eater from the scene in ROTJ? I felt he may have just popped porgs into his mouth like an appetizer or something.

      • Carbonite_Hydrates

        Chewie learned a few things from the Ewoks attempt to roast Han Solo on a spit.

      • Maybe Chewie learned to cook in order to impress Maz? However I do think that porgs would be like potato chips to Chewie. You cant just have one.

  • DarthCanabis

    Damn shame.

    They shoulda made Ackbar be the one to jump to hyperspce thru Snoke’s Dreadnaught…

  • The D.O.

    Aliens always seem to get the shaft…….No medal for Chewy, no hug for Chewy after Han’s death……Ackbar should have been given Holdo’s death.

    • Dangerlinto

      Agreed 100%. Would have been way more meaningful if Ackbar and Poe butted heads and Ackbar sacrificed himself – not “girl I just met 10 minutes ago and through exposition have been told was always there – you just never saw her before”

      • Carbonite_Hydrates

        But I dont think Poe and Ackbar would butt heads. Even if they did – fans like you and me would side with Ackbar. The movie needed a stranger so we would trust Poe. It was smart to have the stranger played by an actor we do trust.

    • Carbonite_Hydrates

      The problem in TFA isn’t Chewie not getting a hug. It’s Chewie standing there not doing anything. He should have rushed off with an injured Finn, too preoccupied with helping his new friend to stop and talk to anyone. That would leave Rey and Leia to meet.

      It’s okay for Chewie and Leia to not have that moment because we get an even better Chewbacca and Leia hug when Han and Leia are reunited in the rubble of Maz’s castle. How much better is that reunion than Indy and Marion’s in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? Mostly because C-3PO and Chewbacca cut the tension in really unexpected but honest ways.

    • Holdo died? I am beginning to wonder if I even watched this film when I was in the theater that night!

  • Jeff Wickson

    Well, that explains why they killed off Ackbar, he was rude to Mon Mothma !! He had it coming.

    • Has Been Kenobi

      Many bothans died for dissing Mon Mothma

  • zx_spectrum_30

    I didn’t have a problem with this scene, it was a sudden surprise death, I was genuinely shocked…I didn’t believe it until the dialogue confirmed it.

    Thought it was one of the more effective scenes in TLJ – too often key death’s are long and drawn out (be thankful this isn’t Doctor Who or Arrow where nobody ever really dies, they just pretend die and then a bit later miracuously resurrect).

    Given how much of the old Star Wars the new films have ditched, was grateful to have a little Ackbar (would love to know why there were no other Mon Cal on a Mon Cal cruiser thou).

    • Carbonite_Hydrates

      I thought there were other Mon Cal with him in that last scene? I just looked it up online but can’t find pictures that show one way or the other.

  • Marc G

    Pretty meaningless gesture really. It’s like looking at bomb site and saying it is a shame the front door blew off.

  • snowdroid

    I just wish he would have edited a certain General Organas sequence kind of… better…

  • Darth Lumberg

    Where are all those prequel haters now? I guess they all assumed it was effortlessly easy to make a SW film that the whole world would love.

  • Tom

    The ST is just a “legend”. For me it is not “canon”. This makes this terrible experience a little bit easier to forget.

    • Tyler Frechette

      With the exception of Rogue One, I’ve pretty much decided that Disney’s Star Wars is not real, and this trilogy is not legitimate.

      • Tom

        Of course RO is a great movie and wonderful introduction to “New Hope”.
        RO has probably the best space battle scenes in the entire SW. However, RO would be better without all the martial arts. And let give the stormtroopers proper support vehicles (gunships, hover tanks etc).
        Star Wars should include more serious military aspects since it is

        Star WARS. Many new designs lack the classic military efficiency. Although AT-AT made no sense at all.

        • Tyler Frechette

          The space battle in RO is nothing short of EPIC, that’s for sure. When I first saw the Star Destroyer cut through the other one in theaters, that blew me away.

  • I don’t have a major issue with his death. But he isn’t a minor character. He’s a major part of the Rebel Alliance.

    • Carbonite_Hydrates

      So were Generals Dodonna and Reiken.

  • Commander Joe276

    Wow I’m glad im glad Ackbar is just now being recognized by Disney…. that was by far the biggest low blow in the movie. I was instantly like “wtf just happened to my man Ackbar?” quietly in my movie theater to the person I was with.
    As others have said, when the movie concluded I wished thatAckbar had been in Holdo’s position. To lead to Rebellion while Leia was unconscious and to be the one who flew the Raddus into snokes capital ship. Very disappointing they wasted a new character on such a big role, when it would have been an honorable send off for our classic Admiral.

  • I love Ackbar, but he was a supporting character; his death should have been handled incidentally, as it was. Otherwise people would be screaming fan service.

    • Tom Chorlton

      Yup. Outside of, you know, us folks that post on Star Wars Action Figure Comment Sections, most folks don’t give a real hoot about Admiral Ackbar. They think of him as the funny “ITS A TRAP!” meme guy.

      • I actually thought it was odd that they said “we lost Ackbar and those other leaders.” Why only mention Ackbar by name, but nobody else? Sorry guys, you just aren’t cultural icons.

        • Carbonite_Hydrates

          It lets us know for sure that Ackbar is gone. It also explains why Holdo, a charater we never heard of before, is now in command. And lastly we understand how depleted the command chain is.

          • Tom Chorlton

            Yeah, I think that was just the logics of screenwriting over logics of reality there. They would have had to make up other names or something “Admiral Ackbar.. Admiral Dillyflop, Admiral Mooglemuffin.. all gone now.”

          • I get that, I just think it could have been handled with a bit more subtlety. I like it when these movies don’t try too hard to explain to the audience what’s going on. Just being nit picky though.

          • Carbonite_Hydrates

            It helped me have closure. On first viewing I wasn’t 100% sure Ackbar was sucked out into space with so much else happening. So I needed that line.

    • Carbonite_Hydrates

      I thought his being sucked out into space added more to what happened to Leia. I actually thought that might be the end for her.

  • Carbonite_Hydrates

    I love the character Admiral Ackbar. He’s probably my third favorite military leader, historic or fictional. The audacious absurdity of having a Lobster military leader who embodies grace and authority encapsulates so much of why I’m a Star Wars fan.

    But if you look at Ackbar’s function in Return of the Jedi – he’s less of a leader and more of a naysayer. His character does two things in Jedi. He sets up the overall objectives for success in the Rebel briefing. After that he is there to continually remind the audience that the plan is not working and why it’s going to fail. Ackbar is a foil for Lando. Ackbar makes what Lando does in the battle seem more daring and inventive.

    It’s Lando, not Ackbar, who releases that Death Star Shield is still up. When a fleet of Star Destroyers appear Ackbar’s first instinct is for a full retreat. It’s Lando who says “We won’t get another shot at this.” And when the Death Star’s prime weapon is revealed operational, it’s Lando’s idea to engaging the Star Destroyers directly to buy more time.

    What’s great about Ackbar is his willingness to immediately go all in with everything Lando says. It only takes one or two lines of back and forth before Ackbar is totally won over. And Admiral Ackbar does order a concentrated attack on the Super Star Destroyer which is successful. So he does do some leading at the end.

    In the The Force Awakens Ackbar again voices his concerns about Star Killer Base and why the plan won’t work before being won over to the idea by Han and Poe.

    Because of his past willingness to go along with these long shot plans, I don’t think it would be in character for Ackbar to lead the way Admiral Holdo does. Also we Star Wars fans trust Ackbar so much even if he did act that way, we’d be inclined to trust him over Poe.

    But the biggest issue is probably Ackbar’s believability in the Holdo roll when it came to conveying the right emotional depth. During filming of Return of the Jedi it was questionable if Ackbar’s scenes during the battle would work or push too far into ridiculous. Because of that every scene we see with Ackbar during the battle was also shot with General Madine.

    • Tom Chorlton

      Right. The storytelling device was to convince the audience that this new leader was going to be some sort of awful bureaucrat type, and that as the audience, we should follow Poe. I found it surprising when it turned out she was correct the whole time, and the character archetype I was used to following in these stories was wrong. And if yer someone who is mad that she was a woman, then just imagine her as Michael Ironside, and he’d probably serve the same function.

      • Carbonite_Hydrates

        I really loved that too. Holdo was just doing her job and doing it well. Poe made the mistakes and I was right with him thinking he was doing the right thing.

        We’re so used to Star Wars movies being full of twists, perspective changing reveals, and last ditched one against a thousand long shot victories. It was refreshing to have The Last Jedi play out how things normally would play out.

  • Carbonite_Hydrates

    Totally agree 100%. It was a better end for Ackbar than we saw for any of the other Rebel leaders.

  • Kevin Knight

    I’m not sure what the difference is between how they handled Ackbar’s death compared with how they handled Han or Lukes? I realize they didn’t have a lot of time to devote to a funeral in either the end of TFA or the start of TLJ, but unless they have some sort of onscreen gathering to memorialize the “heroes of the rebellion” at the start of IX, I can’t imagine why the above comments are anything but pandering.

  • jason1978

    He died due to a trap. It’s the way Ackbar would’ve wanted to die. I mean was his death worse than the slapstick Looney Toons style death of Boba Fett…who Lucas even said would’ve been the main villain had he moved on to make Ep 7-9

  • Caius

    IF he was so minor you would not feel the need to comment on his death nor would anyone be talking about it. He may have been a minor character but he had a serious role and purpose and for whatever reason he resonated with the fans. Fans just want that acknowledged in some minor way. I don’t think there is any expectation for a grand death scene but acknowledgment of his career and love by fans would have been nice. How can one watch these movies without preconceived notions, they are a SAGA and need to build upon one another. If this wee just some sci fi movie then sure its easier to forget the stupid stuff and just have fun. SW is bigger than one film.

  • Language please

  • shane

    It’s an anti SW film.

  • Tyler Frechette

    AMEN brothah, PREACH. That 49% just makes me happy hahahaha

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