Posted by Paul on October 10, 2017 at 7:38 PM
IMAX has posted a provocative image on their Twitter page which reveals something controversial about an important Star Wars character. Spoilers apply!
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I think it may pertain to Luke’s new view that the Jedi were flawed. It all goes back to him entering “Bendu” territory with his understanding of the Force now. He is both light and dark, using the best of both sides of the Force. He did beat his Father being filled with reckless Rage. In the past when Jedi let hate in, it caused them to fail. Like when Maul got the upper hand on Obi-Wan, the tight shot of Ewan’s face showed his rage after the fall of Qui-Gon, and then he paid the price for it. Then hanging he regained his composure to strike down Maul. But either way, Snoke should be in the position Luke is in on the Dark Side of the standee.
If Snoke were to hold a central position in that poster, it would certainly make one heck of an ugly @$$ cardoard entrance.
I’m sorry, but I feel the urge to make a copypasta of one of my own comments:
[…] Ah. THAT theory.
Well, that’s the only thing they have yet to do in order to completely obliterate and erase any value left in the OT after the TFA debacle.
If THAT happens, the new storyline will be placed in such a conflict with the OT, that the acceptance of one, will necessarily negate the other.
They won’t be complementary stories like the prequels; they will be opposing forces fighting to turn the other completely irrelevant.[…]
I’m not judging the movie before seeing it, perhaps it will be a cinematic masterpiece, but if all the theories and rumors come to be true, the difference in general tone and character development will be so deep and incompatible that the new trilogy will be a completely different Star Wars.
The New Star Wars and the Old Star Wars.
I’m assuming you mean the theory of Luke becoming a Sith or in some other way being the “bad guy.” Correct me if I’m wrong.
If that’s the case, how would that negate the OT? The literally did the same thing with Anakin. He was a sweet innocent youth on the good side for 3 movies (well, 2.75 movies). Then he became a murderous evil dude for 3 movies (well, 2.95 movies). How would it “erase any value left in the OT” other than being a plotline you don’t particularly like? Luke lost his parents, his adoptive parents, both his mentors, his droids, became estranged from his sister and best friend, lost his best friend, and one of his former students became a sith wannabe. I don’t think it would be a far cry for Luke to be moody enough to turn to the dark side.
Anyway I’m just trying to understand what you’re talking about.
Personally I don’t think Luke will be the baddie. It seems more likely that they will talk about the “balance” of the force as everyone having a little dark and a little light within them at all times, and it’s up to the wielder to find their own balance, blah blah blah. But I do think it would be an interesting take if Luke went at least a little psycho.
When a following story changes the original in such way that its ending, character development and general spirit is abused and twisted in order to make the new story more shocking and effective without resorting to a real interesting plot, you have a story that conflicts the original.
Think about the Alien 3 effect. What’s the point of the general public’s favorite movie of the franchise if you are going to tear it all up in the sequel? What right do the authors have to do that? And if they do, how can anyone accept that as a genuine part of the story?
If one thing is certain about Lucas is that he loves happy endings and the OT reflects that. As I said before, it’s an inspiring and hope giving story that reflects the general human idealization of the hero’s journey.
The new movies (so far) seem to be making an effort to just use the originals as stepping stones, as expendable material to tell a recycled story built on the murdered corpse of its venerable ancestor. It’s shameful, and as such, all real Star Wars fans are commanded by virtue of ethics and common sense to just ignore this new monster.
Other fans will embrace it, actually fulfilling the objective of the new masters of the franchise of making the OT irrelevant.
And that’s why one must choose between the new or the old, but not both, because the connection between them doesn’t make sense. If you are a fan of the new movies, you’ll feel like you are wasting your time if you watch the OT because you know, no matter the ending, it will all go into the abyss of darkness by the time you put the next disc or fire the next file.
There’s no point of comparison with Anakin’s story because, as dark as it is, his journey is an integral part of the general plot.
Anyway, all this could be for nothing, and is actually unfair to jump to such conclusions before seeing the movie, so we’ll have to wait to form a real opinion on the matter. Sorry for the lenght.
thanks for the explanation. i agree with many of your points. but i don’t really think it will go that way. also, like it or not disney is going to take star wars in the direction they want to. i don’t particularly love everything they’ve done thus far and i don’t think i will love everything in the future. but i try to keep an open mind. the OT will always have a special place in our hearts. if anything i think the prequel trilogy did more “damage” being that it was supposed to explain and give reason to everything in the OT, much of which was not needed or badly done. but i digress.
my theory, and some of my friends don’t like this, is that after the 9th film, star wars will abandon the trilogy format and simply come out with films in perpetuity. it will be like james bond or star trek where some films are great and some films suck. it will just depend on the director and the cast at the time. i would have preferred lucas be involved for the last three films to complete the trilogy of trilogies. people like to rag on him but his vision is most of what made star wars special. if he had “help” from disney but not total control, it might have been different.
at any rate, i think it would do us fans well to stay open minded. i’d rather they try something new and unexpected and try to make a GOOD film than stay “safe” and predictable like TFA. we will see!
Of course all my construction is a big “what if…”, since the new trilogy is just getting started (badly). Perhaps everything will go alright and my opinion will be for naught, but right now with the elements we have on the table, my guts tell me it’s going to be the other way around.
I’m not a huge fan of the prequels either. I think Anakin’s story could have been easily handled via a spin off movie (basically a longer version of Ep3), starting deep within the Clone Wars, throwing some background info with dialogs and showing Anakin’s childhood via flashbacks.
so, Luke wears a hood…. Then he doesn’t wear a hood.
Yup, exactly. So what, right? Why even discuss Star Wars anymore?
Ya see wearing the hood makes people go bad. Not wearing it makes people good.
And when your surroundings go drab and grey, watch out because here come the bad guys! Unless…you…are the bad guys…DUN DUN DUN
If there ever was an optimistic, happy go lucky character, that’s Luke. And classic Captain Marvel.
No, not Luke. Luuke!
Oh man I’d love it if Luuke was woven into the movie continuity like that. It’s so ridiculous that it’s hilarious.
Now we need Mara Jade.
Sadly this is the JJ Alternate Star Tr.. Erm.. Wars universe where a crochety Ithoran Miner went back in time using a stolen Czerka mining ship and used its comparatively advanced technology to blow up Mara Jade’s homeworld, with her on it. 🙁
I don’t believe that. Ithorians were from the Star Wars movies he didn’t make. He would use one of his copycats, though.
That name always cracked me up even as a kid – like seriously, how does one pronounce that? I always imagine the phonetics of “Lou-ook” haha
I always pictured it like Aunt Beru trying to get his attention.. “Luuuuuuuke! Oh Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuke!”..
Now we know where than hand went!
Dark Side Luke? Nooooooooo……….
I don’t think this means anything.
Luke did train Kylo originally, and after his turn, it made Luke go into exile where he wore the darker robes. It makes sense that he’d be on both sides.
All misdirections, just like the trailer. I’ve never seen so many obvious misdirects.
it was said that Anakin would bring balance to the force. Perhaps through his progeny.
Well, there were like a thousand Jedi and a dozen sith. Anakin did even out those numbers which seems like a balance to me
Totally. He fulfilled the prophecy quite well.
And, like SPOILERS, but Rogue One kinda proves that Kanan, Ezra and Ahsoka are all dead by The Battle of Yavin.
So it is 2 v 2 until Luke screws it up with a 3 v 2. But then we go to 2 v 2 in the Death Star, then it is 1 v 2 at Endor and then 1 v 0. So it is ALL kinds of messed up!
Which is why Luke is the chosen one cause he can tap into the dark side (force choking gamorreans?) but resist giving into it completely. He brought real balance to the force.
I’ve always thought Luke was really the chosen one.
So Luke was Snoke the whole time? I mean that or a clone is the only way to take this and not as an artistic choice or that Luke trained both Ben and Rey and we are shown two sides of the force being expressed by his students and their action
The saga of Jedi Master Jekyll and Darth Hyde? 😉
I venture a guess: this means absolutely nothing. It’s just a symmetrical design. Or it could mean that Luke is the ally of the Resistance and a looming threat (he does look more threatening with the hood up) for the First Order.
Luke will not become evil. I am pretty certain of that.
Maybe Luke as an unwitting antagonist?
Snoke is a defective clone of Jocasta Nu. Creates an evil clone of Luke. And Disney can jack some more EU for the ST.
Phew–the porgs are good guys…that’s a relief.
If they were going for design symmetry (which I am fairly certain was their intent), why on Earth didn’t they use Snoke? This design just creates confusion.
If this ‘spoiler’ turns out to be true to the movie’s plot, I guarantee the franchise will lose a lot of fans. (Or as Paul would say, a lot [more] fans. :P)
omg, i picture of luke on both sides! maybe hes not taking any sides anymore. best way to defeat your enemy is to know them or whatever the saying is. i get the impression its something along those lines. controversial. no.
M E H.
Maybe it’s snoke shapeshifting as luke or possessing Luke. I do love the Luuke theory though, brilliant!
Luke is The Last Jedi, makes sense for him to be on both. Don’t worry, this won’t be Dark Empire 😉
In the trailer there is a shot of Rey climbing out of water with Luke menacingly standing in the background with his hood up. My guess is that Luke is the dark side Luke and is the dark side tree cave force spirit like the one he fought on Dagobah.
Late to the party since I had to evacuate due to the fires and now I have to spend a week or so putting my collection back after evacuating.
Anywho, The trailer was much better than the teaser but so was my last bowel movement.
I think the Luke/Rey relationship will make or break the film. Though a lot of the CG was really dodgy in the trailer which I hope is unfinished right now and I’m not a fan of the telenovella style of acting which is just as bad as the reading off cue cards style we got in the PT.
All I know is that it is time………for the saga films to end
“Though a lot of the CG was really dodgy in the trailer which I hope is unfinished right now ”
CGI in trailers is nearly always unfinished/provisional work.
Yep, he’s right. I’m pretty sure there were some issues with AT-ACTs too in some Rogue One teasers.
I’m still holding out hope for the theory that Luke is trying to bring the Light and Dark sides together, that we all have both within us.
“I am grey. I stand between the candle and the star. We are grey. We stand between the darkness and the light.”
An excellent reference to one of my favorite TV shows of all time.
Luke’s Hood falls exactly like Palpatines Hood.
I think it’s just for aesthetic purposes. I doubt it means anything plot wise
Not gonna lie… my mouth hung open for a few seconds…
This opens a whole new can of worms, so to speak. I have to think this is either:
1) simply representative of how Luke trained both Rey and Kylo
2) an indication of Luke struggling still with the Dark Side and possibly going bad
3) an indication of Luke being able to handle Rey while pulling Kylo back under his wing
4) a clone Luuke? I gotta seriously doubt this one…
5) flashback Luke? Seems overkill to include Luke on that side due to a dark flashback?
6) some sort of twisted Dark Empire storyline? Luke going dark to save everyone?
Is there something else I’m missing?
He wore a hood when entering Jabba’s palace and force choking Gamorrean guards. I didn’t believe the TFA rumors he was going to the dark side then and I don’t buy it now.
For once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
Who cares about the movie ? I just want that display as the entrance to my Star Wars show room. If I worked at the theater I’d be making a deal with my manager !
I can’t lie, I did a double take at that article title! Well done, Paul. xD
Seriously people, don’t buy into all this crap, it’s total misdirection and for that I am proud of Rian Johnson for doing. Don’t ruin the story early, just enjoy while it happens that first night in the theater, the way a movie should be. I love all the questions and the little answers.
Well, so is Leia…
With the SITH dead after ROTJ, the Force’s balance was all in LUKE, his mind split between good and evil.
Something something Dark Side incomplete…
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